But as I demonstrated for epeeir, we would not expect our rules and laws to predict the actions of a conscious agent. All I have to do is type these keys the way I choose to. You could never have predicted that and not even with logic, because logic can be expressed with any number of words or languages. We can say the same thing in words unique to our personalities and the like.
What a mean is that when science gets its sleeves rolled up and digs in, it never turns out that the supernatural explanation is correct…the science explanation is always, to date anyway, the correct one.
That is the point I am trying to make to you. Real knowledge doesn’t require crusades, pogroms, inquisitions, and 30 year wars. Once people realized they didn’t have to account for God in their equations, that there was “no need for that hypothesis”, science and technology took off exponentially. Medicine improved dramatically when they realized that disease was not caused by supernatural forces.
You then moved to probability theory to evade the FACT that both of them related to the fundamental question of the nautre of reality.

John probably got the term from Philo who borrowed it from Greek philosophy. The Greeks need the demiurge, Logos, to explain how an immaterial being could interact with a material world.
Yet in terms of racial equity, our state has a long way to go. Educational outcomes for Minnesota youth remain low, and glaring gaps for people of color are reported, according to several of Minnesota’s key indicators or “Compass Points.” Only 57 percent of children in third grade test as proficient in reading, and only 58 percent test as proficient in math in eighth grade. While graduation rates inched up, to 82 percent, the overall numbers mask enormous disparities between students of color and their white peers. Poverty rates, home ownership rates and other key indicators document that prosperity and opportunity remain far better for our white residents. Compass speakers acknowledged that Minnesota’s indicators, considered together, make our state look pretty great—but only if you are white.
And since God, according to Craig, is timeless, immaterial, etc….how does something immaterial affect material?
He walks away because there is no point. They CHOOSE to deny what is in front of them. I don’t know why. Pride? Power? Insecurity of being mocked for stepping out of the crowd?

We are FORCED by our ignorance to use philosophy. And philosophy can be tested for logical contradiction the same as empirical entities. One with mathematics, and the other with propositional logic. Both rely on the same fundamental laws of logic. There is no point in questioning the validity of philosophy, because the attempt will always ITSELF be a philosophical criticism. Its like trying to demonstrate mathematically that mathematics is worthless.
Breitbart ‘alt-right’ and Radix/VDare ‘alt-right’ are two very different things. National populism vs. mostly racialist fascism. Not the same thing, unless you want to argue that farmer populism is also fascism. Somehow.
Am guessing that it is Educational Visit Coordinator (EVC), given Robert attends a prison as an instructor of some bent…or so he says anyway.
Don’t give yourself airs. You’re not hated, you’re an annoyance. You’re sealioning us, pretending to ask questions and misinterpreting the answers you’re given.
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